juno-magic:

suedescripture:

pintoinlove:

Zachary Quinto talks to HuffPost Live about gay sexuality and provocation
Where do I begin? There are so many things I want to say about the portion of the HP interview I’ve posted above. And I have no doubt that posting these things will lose me followers, gain me hate mail, and who knows what else. But I feel this is something that needs to be said.
It’s clear from watching the HP interview that Zach is not comfortable answering this question. At all. However, he gives it a shot and is vague and eloquent enough to appease the masses (as well as his and Franco’s publicists, I’m sure). Unfortunately this is fandom and we are not the masses. In fact, we’re often made up of the minorities (sexual, social, spiritual).
My initial take away (and initial point of anger) was the impression that, for ZQ, it’s okay for someone like James Franco to use a creative medium to explore and generate dialogue about gay sexuality, but it’s not okay for people like us to do so. And I must admit, as a recognizable member of a community that ZQ himself has publicly shamed on several occasions, this impression is not okay.
Why is it a ‘warranted’ provocation for James Franco, yet an abhorrent and pathological fetish for us? Why is my exploration of sexuality in a safe and anonymous community (an exploration which has allowed me to gain valuable insight, foster fulfilling relationships, and move towards becoming more content in my own life) so blatantly appalling, while Franco’s voyeurism and trolling are commendable?
Though it may not appear so to outsiders, this is a community that engages in constant open discussion and introspection. We are not blind to the opposition that has been shown to us, nor are we immune to some it ourselves. Those contributing to the dialogue are predominantly individuals who openly identify as women or non-binary, most of whom are highly educated, intelligent, and open-minded, with sexualities falling over every length of the spectrum. We are critical and able to appreciate the views coming from of all sides of the debate. That is, until they shame us.
And in my experience it’s been clear that when we’re publicly shamed by celebrities, those around us then think it’s okay to shame us as well.
Personally, I no longer give a damn what ZQ thinks about fanfiction or the idea of Spirk. It’s nothing I’d ever have any desire to ask him about, and I’m content knowing that aside from the occasional awkward question, he doesn’t give the matter a second thought. It’s completely outside of his experience, and that’s more than fine by me.
However, as his fans we share numerous spaces with the rest of his fan base, which like most other fandoms, is made up predominantly of women. We are connected, and we are in constant conversation. But many of these other fans seem to think that it’s okay to threaten, to belittle, and to shame our communities. As someone who has been on the receiving end of numerous hate filled messages I can tell you that such remarks are hurtful, ignorant, and insulting. People with little to no understanding of our communities come in to pass judgment, and attempt to shame us out of existence.
For many, especially those who identify as women or non-binary, getting to a place where they were able to explore and discuss sexuality is difficult enough without then being shamed by a greater and more vocal fandom sect. Those who do so may not realize it, but with every comment, hate message, and eye-roll, what is being conveyed is the shaming of women, by other women, for using a creative outlet to learn more about sexuality, gender, and themselves.

"But I think it’s about what you do with the dialogue once it’s generated that becomes important to our culture." 
This. Right here. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. And I’m not just talking about Trek RPF or Spirk, I’m talking about what we in all fandoms, as a fandom, as fic writers and artists and consumers are already and have been doing for decades. I think it’s important for these actors themselves—who perhaps reluctantly became part of that— to be willing to embrace, to a certain degree. Because while they are the catalysts, they can also be the platform for that discussion. Some of them already have, and that’s really important. But we need more of them to. 


(Many thanks to PiL for a really excellent essay, and especially to Suede for seriously nailing it with insightful commentary once again.) 
I just want to add some context for the questions quoted by PiL because I haven’t seen that put clearly anywhere so far. Those questions refer to ZQ working with James Franco on the movie “Michael”. 
“Michael” is based on the article “My Ex-Gay Friend” by Benoit Denizet-Lewis, which was published in the New York Times in 2011. 
The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction.
The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction with sexual content and a canon slash threesome.
When ZQ refers to playing scenes in which he was told to put out for his pretend beebee James Franco, he’s refering to scenes that portray a real sexual relationship of a real person.
So what’s the big difference between Franco and his movie “Michael” and your average RPF writer?
Well, Franco is a man.
And Franco gets paid for it.

juno-magic:

suedescripture:

pintoinlove:

Zachary Quinto talks to HuffPost Live about gay sexuality and provocation

Where do I begin? There are so many things I want to say about the portion of the HP interview I’ve posted above. And I have no doubt that posting these things will lose me followers, gain me hate mail, and who knows what else. But I feel this is something that needs to be said.

It’s clear from watching the HP interview that Zach is not comfortable answering this question. At all. However, he gives it a shot and is vague and eloquent enough to appease the masses (as well as his and Franco’s publicists, I’m sure). Unfortunately this is fandom and we are not the masses. In fact, we’re often made up of the minorities (sexual, social, spiritual).

My initial take away (and initial point of anger) was the impression that, for ZQ, it’s okay for someone like James Franco to use a creative medium to explore and generate dialogue about gay sexuality, but it’s not okay for people like us to do so. And I must admit, as a recognizable member of a community that ZQ himself has publicly shamed on several occasions, this impression is not okay.

Why is it a ‘warranted’ provocation for James Franco, yet an abhorrent and pathological fetish for us? Why is my exploration of sexuality in a safe and anonymous community (an exploration which has allowed me to gain valuable insight, foster fulfilling relationships, and move towards becoming more content in my own life) so blatantly appalling, while Franco’s voyeurism and trolling are commendable?

Though it may not appear so to outsiders, this is a community that engages in constant open discussion and introspection. We are not blind to the opposition that has been shown to us, nor are we immune to some it ourselves. Those contributing to the dialogue are predominantly individuals who openly identify as women or non-binary, most of whom are highly educated, intelligent, and open-minded, with sexualities falling over every length of the spectrum. We are critical and able to appreciate the views coming from of all sides of the debate. That is, until they shame us.

And in my experience it’s been clear that when we’re publicly shamed by celebrities, those around us then think it’s okay to shame us as well.

Personally, I no longer give a damn what ZQ thinks about fanfiction or the idea of Spirk. It’s nothing I’d ever have any desire to ask him about, and I’m content knowing that aside from the occasional awkward question, he doesn’t give the matter a second thought. It’s completely outside of his experience, and that’s more than fine by me.

However, as his fans we share numerous spaces with the rest of his fan base, which like most other fandoms, is made up predominantly of women. We are connected, and we are in constant conversation. But many of these other fans seem to think that it’s okay to threaten, to belittle, and to shame our communities. As someone who has been on the receiving end of numerous hate filled messages I can tell you that such remarks are hurtful, ignorant, and insulting. People with little to no understanding of our communities come in to pass judgment, and attempt to shame us out of existence.

For many, especially those who identify as women or non-binary, getting to a place where they were able to explore and discuss sexuality is difficult enough without then being shamed by a greater and more vocal fandom sect. Those who do so may not realize it, but with every comment, hate message, and eye-roll, what is being conveyed is the shaming of women, by other women, for using a creative outlet to learn more about sexuality, gender, and themselves.

"But I think it’s about what you do with the dialogue once it’s generated that becomes important to our culture." 

This. Right here. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. And I’m not just talking about Trek RPF or Spirk, I’m talking about what we in all fandoms, as a fandom, as fic writers and artists and consumers are already and have been doing for decades. I think it’s important for these actors themselves—who perhaps reluctantly became part of that— to be willing to embrace, to a certain degree. Because while they are the catalysts, they can also be the platform for that discussion. Some of them already have, and that’s really important. But we need more of them to. 

(Many thanks to PiL for a really excellent essay, and especially to Suede for seriously nailing it with insightful commentary once again.)

I just want to add some context for the questions quoted by PiL because I haven’t seen that put clearly anywhere so far. Those questions refer to ZQ working with James Franco on the movie “Michael”.

“Michael” is based on the article “My Ex-Gay Friend” by Benoit Denizet-Lewis, which was published in the New York Times in 2011.

The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction.

The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction with sexual content and a canon slash threesome.

When ZQ refers to playing scenes in which he was told to put out for his pretend beebee James Franco, he’s refering to scenes that portray a real sexual relationship of a real person.

So what’s the big difference between Franco and his movie “Michael” and your average RPF writer?

Well, Franco is a man.

And Franco gets paid for it.

agt-sharon:

verysharpteeth:

jenngeek:

doktorfylthe:

Characterization done right.

Steve Rogers in a single gif.

We joke about Steve’s patriotism as his strong suit, but his actual strength was his sense of moral right. His whole philosophy is summed up in the line “I don’t like bullies” in the first movie. Steve loves his country. He loves it enough to be at the front of the line trying to fix what he sees as moral wrong in it.

Steve Rogers stands for what America only tells itself it stands for

agt-sharon:

verysharpteeth:

jenngeek:

doktorfylthe:

Characterization done right.

Steve Rogers in a single gif.

We joke about Steve’s patriotism as his strong suit, but his actual strength was his sense of moral right. His whole philosophy is summed up in the line “I don’t like bullies” in the first movie. Steve loves his country. He loves it enough to be at the front of the line trying to fix what he sees as moral wrong in it.

Steve Rogers stands for what America only tells itself it stands for

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White Collar - season 3

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bibliothekara:

For some reason, Steve-As-Boyle was something I did not know I needed until now. But he very much is.

brichibi:

walkingintochaos:

thisshitfunny:

thatdudeemu:

queerasfuck88:

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Powerful Ferguson Monologue

I been waiting for the daily show to come back so they could cover this

Jon rip them boys a new asshole 

See, Jon Stewart usually does a lot of satirical humour, but at this point, the writers are just like “fuck the comedy this shit is real” and I was so happy to see that they finally covered this, and it was really well done.

"You’re tired of hearing about it?  Imagine how fucking exhausting it is living it."  ~Jon Stewart.

Seriously, watch this video, bless this video, it’s amazing, but I think my favorite parts are when he hears other reports on Ferguson and can’t even get his comment out because he’s so disgusted at what they’re saying.  ”They’re playing the race card.” “Racists are the ones who bring up race.”  Seriously, just… really?

What’s even better is that he knows that he’ll never understand how it feels, but its not about understanding, its about human decency and showing respect and knowing that this shit happens.  Honestly, you don’t have to try and understand my black experience, but at least acknowledge that my experience is different and that there are people who will crap all over it because of my skin color.  No one is playing any sort of card, stop living in this bubble racism is very real and people get killed over it.  Stop comparing your experience to someone else’s, because it’ll never be the same.  

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iwatchforsasha:

Over the weekend you may have heard of or seen - nude photos of celebrities were stolen off of their phones and posted online. It’s a terrible invasion of privacy, but probably the most disconcerting part of this for me is that some people are blaming the celebrities for having the nude photos on their phones in the first place.

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tastefullyoffensive:

The Adventures of George Washington (Part 2) by LadyHistory [more]

Previously: Part One